Aaron\'s Live Writer Blog

August 17, 2010

What is new in Wave 4 windows Live writer since the beta?

This is a quick post to capture some of the highlights of what has been added or changed since the first Beta release of Wave 4 Windows Live Writer.  The development team is not done yet and this is not the full list of changes.  I will have individual posts that give more details about some of these items over the next few days.  Many of these changes are based off of direct Beta feedback or reinforced changes the development team wanted to make but needed customer feedback to push the work to the top of the list.


This did not quite make the Beta but now Live Writer has jumplists on Windows 7.  Right click on the application icon in the task bar and you will see jump list entries for recent drafts and recent posts.

Drafts and Posts on the application menu.

This is another that we new we wanted to change after moving away from the sidebar and many customers let us know that this was a must have.  We hope you like the fact that you now have a way to move quickly to drafts or posts via a “most recently used” like list.


Much better theme detection

As WordPress has changed over the years Writer has not kept up with the theme changes.  I would like to think that Live Writer is back on par and can accurately detect all current themes from WordPress including their new WP 3.0 theme Twenty Ten.  The theme detection changes are not exclusively for WordPress.  Writer will now work a lot better with the new custom Blogger themes also and should work better for really any blog server you use.  WYSIWYG is much better in Blogger now.  I should note that Writer still cannot themes for blogs marked as private on servers such as WordPress.

Post draft to blog now has a ribbon button

This one kind of surprised us.  People really wanted a ribbon button that post draft to blog.  We read many reports where people say that they post a draft to their blog and then directly go to the web to actually publish the post from there.  No one really went on to explain why they need to do the extra step of publishing from the website but since y’all asked for it we were able to accommodate you.  This moved the “Add blog account” button to the Blog accounts drop down list. 

Much better copy/Paste from Microsoft Office

Writer has always had issues with what is the “right” way to paste content from your clipboard.  Should it paste everything that was there.  Does it try and make things “web friendly” and exclude stuff on the clipboard that is there but is not needed?  With Office there is a lot of CSS on the clipboard that will not be needed in your blog post.  If it was pasted it would really bloat your post.  We think we have a good compromise of pasting what you need to keep the formatting.  Bullets/numbering, heading styles, etc. all should paste better when copying from Office into Writer.  I will give a lot more details and examples in a separate post.

Updated spelling dictionaries

Yes Live Writer dictionaries were really out of date.  It now have the same ones that are included with Office 2010.  Live Writer will have updates for all languages that it is released in.  It also has an updated autocorrect list that matches the English list in Office 2010.

Photo Album improvements

Photo albums should upload faster now.  This is true in Live Writer and also in Live Mail.  In Live Mail there is also a better indication as to where you can add additional photos to your album.  Live Mail also has some UI to set of a Photo Album expires after 90 days or not.

More keyboard shortcuts

There are more keyboard shortcuts which should appear as help topic on the web and I will have a separate post with the full list.


Hopefully this small list make you happy and that the build works much better for you.  Please keep leaving feedback in the forums or on feedback.live.com.

Update: Here is where you can download the new build from: http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-beta



  1. […] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Scott Lovegrove and Terry Walsh, Aaron Bregel. Aaron Bregel said: Typed up a post as to what some of the highlights are for Windows Live Writer Wave 4 since the beta. Thoughts? http://bit.ly/cm63gL […]

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  2. “We read many reports where people say that they post a draft to their blog and then directly go to the web to actually publish the post from there. No one really went on to explain why they need to do the extra step of publishing from the website but since y’all asked for it we were able to accommodate you”

    I’m one of those people. One of the blog engines I use (Community Server) is so undeniably crap that I can’t trust that my uploaded post will render like it should. The most common problem I get is embedding videos – look fine in Writer but when I upload the post their nowhere to be seen and I have to in and hack the HTML.


    Comment by Jamie Thomson — August 17, 2010 @ 1:42 PM

    • Thanks for the feedback. I guess we assumed that the Preview view would show you if things were going to look bad.

      Comment by Aaron Bregel — August 17, 2010 @ 2:19 PM

      • No, because Community Server seriously f*cks with the HTML. Quite literally changes it wholesale – particularly for the embed code that Vimeo gives you (which is where I host videos).
        I don’t know whether its all Community Server installs or just the one that I am hosted upon – either way its very very annoying.

        Comment by Jamie Thomson — August 17, 2010 @ 2:21 PM

  3. Did they finally get WLW to use the same image uploading that WordPress does? Reason being that if you have a theme that uses things like the thumbnail (featured image) feature or the caption css settings WLW breaks that since it does image uploads differently

    Comment by Steven Hodson — August 17, 2010 @ 2:11 PM

    • No there is not server specific short codes in Live writer.

      Comment by Aaron Bregel — August 17, 2010 @ 2:17 PM

  4. Thanks for the shortcut to insert images from the web, will save me a lot of time and clicks 😉

    Comment by Josh — August 17, 2010 @ 2:14 PM

  5. Posting drafts to your blog is important if you want to ad wordpress captions to pictures for example.

    Comment by sururdavids — August 17, 2010 @ 2:24 PM

  6. Thank you for the improvements in the latest version, especially the publish as draft button. I need to amend meta data and other SEO refinements and that can’t be done directly from WLW.

    However, the new version still does not detect my Thesis theme on two of my three blogs. The two blogs in question have a static front page and WLW cannot download from them. On the blog with the more normal dynamic (most recent post on top) WLW has no problem. I can work around the problem by temporarily going into WP for the problematic blogs and deselecting the “static page” option, then reactivating it after WLW has successfully downloaded the theme.

    But again, nice work on the new version


    Comment by Rick Grant — August 17, 2010 @ 3:20 PM

  7. Still no ‘Find and Replace’?

    Comment by Nitin — August 17, 2010 @ 4:52 PM

    • Find is still there. Replace is truly still a bummer that it is not there and it looks like it will not happen for Wave 4.

      Comment by Aaron Bregel — August 18, 2010 @ 10:33 AM

  8. Thank you team for updating your way of syncing with the new WordPress themes. Hurray I can now use Twenty Ten! I suppose that now that WordPress Theme team are churning them out left right and centre, this will be an ongoing thing with you guys! 😉 I do hope that you keep abreast of Bloggers new features as well such a being able to add pages etc. You could therefore include pages/split posts etc for Blogger as well and where the go straight to the Blogger Dashboard?
    You guys always listen to your users and then act on their requests, you always have, and that’s why you always get my vote as the best Live team out there. Keep it up and do consider putting some of that list under FILE on that very bare and empty Ribbon for Blog Account so that newbies can easily find everything.

    keep up the good work


    Comment by technogran — August 17, 2010 @ 10:57 PM

    • I would like to think that split post for Blogger will appear before everything is said and done. Still not sure about New Page as there does not seem to be an API from Google to do this when I looked quickly at their SDK.

      Comment by Aaron Bregel — August 18, 2010 @ 10:36 AM

  9. […] Windows Live Writer Beta 2–was ist neu? Erstellt von Stephan Walcher on 18. August 2010 – 14:33Kein Kommentar Hallo, schön, dass Du hier gelandet bist. Wenn Dir dieser Artikel weiterhilft, bleib doch mit dem RSS-Feed über neue Beiträge auf dem Laufenden .Powered by WP Greet Box WordPress PluginNach dem Microsoft gestern die zweiter Beta Version des Windows Live Writer Wave4 das Teil der Windows Live Essentials veröffentlicht hat stellt sich natürlich die Frage, was gibt es neues. Für viele wird sicherlich die endlich verfügbare deutsche Version schon Freude genug sein aber es gibt noch einiges mehr, wie Aaron vom Windows Live Writer Team in seinem Blog zeigt. […]

    Pingback by Windows Live Writer Beta 2–was ist neu? — August 18, 2010 @ 5:40 AM

  10. Thanks Aaron and to all the team for working on getting the new themes right in Live Writer. I can now use Twenty Ten! Hope that you also sorted out the left/right photo placement on there as well. You guys rock because you always act on feedback from your users and that’s why I consider you the best Live team.
    If we find a problem with Live Writer, its always corrected.


    Comment by technogran1 — August 18, 2010 @ 7:01 AM

  11. […] of this would have happened if I hadn’t read Aaron’s blog first thing this morning.  Aaron is one of the coders for Live Writer, and he stated that in […]

    Pingback by Messing about on my blog. | Technogran's Tales — August 18, 2010 @ 7:17 AM

  12. Post draft to blog is essential if you’re using WordPress as a pro site with editors that check/edit posts before pushing them live. That’s not such a unique scenario nowadays 😉

    Comment by Matthew Guay — August 20, 2010 @ 11:36 PM

  13. “Post draft to blog now has a ribbon button” – Actually this feature is very convenient for those blogs which has multiple authors. All the authors post their posts as draft then the administrator approves it and posts it on the blog.
    I think that’s the main reason why many had requested this feature. I’m already using this.

    Comment by vasudev — August 21, 2010 @ 7:06 AM

  14. Hi Aaron, apols if people have posted above on these matters (I got half way down…).

    Tremendous tool btw – it’s straightforward, it works, it’s extensible.

    Perhaps I’m missing something, but would really *love* to have integration with WordPress.com & WordPress.org metadata. I actually use Thesis on top of self-hosted WP (http://souterconsulting.eu), and I think the metadata fields could be different in Thesis…

    Also, it would be useful to be able to easily change where the Drafts are saved to – I would like to use Live Mesh to share Drafts and Posts between two machines. Also, would be great to be able to open more than one post at a time (although I realise I can do this from Explorer).

    I’m sure there’s more, but all I can think of for now. Keep up the great work.

    Now, if only I could get the Movie Maker people to regress to the version that works on XP, that would be terrific…! 😉

    Comment by Justin Souter — September 1, 2010 @ 5:47 AM

  15. What I really need is Live Writer to support WordPress Featured Images, there isn’t an extension that yet supports this either.

    Comment by Justin Germino — September 18, 2010 @ 5:08 PM

  16. Hi,

    Can you please create a footnote/endnote plugin that works just like Office Word?

    The ones I have found have 2 major flaws. 1) There is no “back”/”up” button. Once you click on the link to the endnote and go to the bottom of the page, you have to hit “page up” again and again and find exatcly what you were reading. (Sure one can hit “back” in his browse, but few people are aware of it). 2) There is no automatic way of adding a note and renumber the others. Let´s say a draft has 20 notes. If I add another note after the first, I will have to manually renumber the other 18.

    Please consider creating a plugin that will not present these flaws.

    Thanks a lot.

    Comment by Amilcar — September 30, 2010 @ 1:16 PM

    • I second the request for a footnote/endnote plug in. Just started with WLW and love it, except for the lack of a way to insert citations. Thank you!

      Comment by Scrappy Genealogist — November 5, 2010 @ 10:40 AM

      • You might check and see if there is one in the plug-in gallery. I think there is one or two out there.

        Comment by Aaron Bregel — November 5, 2010 @ 4:55 PM

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